Israelis: Who is Jesus to you?
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Shimon Tel Aviv The Christian prophet Do you want to add something? No, he’s doing a good job The prophet, the God for the Christians He was a good man May God rest his soul He was a rightious man Like our Moses You need to repect them Like there is Mohammad and Jesus there is our God and Moses our teacher He was a good man We went to summer camp together Neta Tel Aviv a cousin No, I don’t know I guess for me he is nothing He is someone for people who consider themselves Christian but for me he is nothing People outside who are religious Christians They don’t understand how Jews, this is my impression They don’t understand how Jews live in the land where Christianity was born and don’t know much or don’t follow Christianity So they asked me to ask Israelis who is Jesus for them what is Jesus to them, why don’t they believe in Jesus I don’t look at Israel as a Jewish state I look at it as the country I was born in and I love it because I grew up here love the people and I got used to it I don’t look at this country as religious because, thank God, it is going in the other direction I am not religious at all So you are not religious so… I have alot of family that are but I am not religious Who is Jesus for you? Liora Shaare Tikva Jesus is the founder of the Christian religion I think what they are asking is why we Jews don’t believe in Jesus that he is the Messiah I am a religious woman I believe in what Judaism gave us Jesus arrived thousands of years after He was a Jew who went to a different religion founded a different religion Yakir Tel Aviv Who is Jesus according to Judaism? What status does he have? Jesus was born to a Jewish mother So in principle, he was a Jew and the Christians took him as their leader they claim he wasn’t born from a mother… You mean a father They say his father was God But we know he was born from a father Where do we know this from? It is discussed in the Babylonian Talmud Really? What is written about it? She was with someone I don’t remember the name It is written she was with someone (son of Pandera) Her husband’s name was Joseph I don’t remember his name (I checked: son of Pandera) I am also not an expert But does Jesus have a specific status in Judaism? In Islam he has a specific status as prophet I don’t know the Quran I don’t know his status according to Judaism I assume they are asking because they want to know why we don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah Can you speak to that? Why don’t we believe what? That Jesus is the Messiah Why should we? Why would we believe? What is the explanation that he is the Messiah? I don’t know. I am not Christian. I can’t tell you I am sure they have their reasoning But why do we think he is not (the Messiah)? I can argue with you so you tell me your opinion I have no idea I should have prepared myself with better information Sorry Christians, I have no idea But what are the reasons he can’t be the Messiah? What needs to happen for him to be the Messiah? He is not the Messiah They say he is the Messiah, maybe because he wasn’t born from a father and came straight from God I don’t know I know Jesus came from Bethlehem from the family of Jesse (King David’s family) But other than that I don’t know But for Judaism, that is not the Messiah So who could be the Messiah? No one knows He who knows, doesn’t say He who says, doesn’t know What does that mean? He who knows, doesn’t say He doesn’t reveal who it is Whoever says they know who the Messiah is shows that they don’t know But as Jew, I always thought there were signs…. There aren’t that the Messiah has to be X, Y, Z… No. No one knows. So how will we know when he is here? It will be good. We will know Hannah Jerusalem A figure for people who cannot think on their own It is a story for people who have not been taught critical thinking Do you think that about all religions or just about Christianity? Yes, I do Who is Jesus from the Jewish perspective? Eran Naharia There is a part of the Gmara about Jesus ???? That he was a student of the Rabbis but he was a heritic He went on a path away from Judaism He believed that the Messianic period had arrived Even though the Messianic period had not arrived Anything to add? Why don’t Jews believe that Jesus is the Messiah? Because the redemption hasn’t arrived If the redemption had arrived, there would be no need to work and do the commandments But Judaism says that we still need to fulfill the commandments because no one here lives in total joy so it is clear the redemption hasn’t come yet Who is Jesus for Jews? Jesus? Yes He is part of Christianity He is not connected to us at all Why isn’t he considered the Messiah? He is not connected to us We believe in the Torah We have our own laws given to us – Jesus was a Jew – A Jew that became Christian They live in a fantasy that he walked on water He believed in the cross We have the Star of David We have our God in heaven We believe in the Torah that God gave us at Mount Sinai We don’t believe in Jesus He has nothing to do with us We have no connection to Jesus We have the Torah to believe in The laws, everything is in the Torah Who is Jesus for you? Ruth and Gideon Jerusalem Jesus is the founder of Christianity That is not exactly what happened in history but he is thought of as the founder The actual founder is Paul What about Paul? I didn’t hear you He was the true founder of Christianity What is this project for? It is my project I study and teach conflict studies Why we fight Outside Israel there are alot of myths about the conflict, Israelis and Palestinians More about Israelis, much more So I tell people to send me questions and I will ask people on the street I work for an organization… I work in an organization that gives help to pregnant women with financial difficulties and some people came in I think they were making a donation and they said they were Christians but they were living in Israel for many years and they asked me if I am a believer and I thought for a minute and I said “I’m a Jew” and they stopped asking I think there is an automatic assumption that they can’t figure out why we don’t believe in Jesus If we believe (in God) at all maybe you can explain Why I’m a Jew? Why Jews don’t believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior It’s not our tradition We have our own tradition which is very ancient and very… ingrained and part of it is not believing in Jesus Do you know why Jesus is not the Messiah? We have a different picture of what the Messiah is The Messiah is something that will happen in the future and it’s going to fix the world the world will be as it is supposed to be when the Messiah comes and that hasn’t happened yet so It’s pretty simple But the stronger answer is that it is just not in our tradition Who is Jesus according to Judaism? Yehoshua, that created everything Jesus, of the Christians Yehoshua, the Jew God who created everything Rabbi Yehoshua… Jesus had a Rabbi that did this with his hand he thought it meant “to leave” but the Rabbi meant “hold on” until I finish praying and he didn’t understand and thought he was being rejected So he left and created everything He created a new religion That’s what you learned? It is from the Gmara (Talmud) It is from the oral law sadly they don’t tell most people Who is Jesus for you? Dean Tel Aviv I think Jesus is the post-modern form of Judaism I will say it in Hebrew Back then, Jesus came and did something very sensational He cancelled out everything (until then) Kept “Love thy neighbour as yourself” Love God with your heart and soul It was a fusion, a total change from the ways of Judaism which is very firm and decisive and then came Jesus who was all about peace and love and abundance That is what Jesus is for me I don’t look at all that… Religions for me in general isn’t something that is… It’s more about stories and insights and good deeds and not about facts Jesus represents for me that post-modern way the change, post-modern is something that returns it is not just in this era it was a 1000 years ago and 2000 years ago It is a reflection of Judaism but doesn’t have to be so resolute So then why don’t you believe in him? I don’t believe in anything Also not… I don’t believe at all in people I believe in nature I believe in Karma But not in people, not Moses not Muhammad and not Jesus In my view, they are just symbols Who is Jesus for you as a Jew? Eliav Moshav Rinata That’s a long story How much do you want to hear? You want the whole story or the short version? I don’t know. Someone who is Christian is asking and they want to know who is Jesus to the Jews In principle, Jesus was a priest, a great priest In the Kabala, it says that they were in some sort of temple all the important people were there They would carry the true name of God on the bracelets, rings they knew God’s true name and Jesus was one of them But when they left the temple they were told to wipe their minds and then they could leave to be with the rest of the people Jesus, though…. Hold on, I have a customer So they had to leave the temple and to cleanse their heads of the thought of the true name for God The Divine Name and the story says that Jesus left with the Divine Name on him He got powers from it divine powers By the way, Jews say he walked on water He really walked on water it is not that we don’t believe in that but it is because he knew the Divine Name and he stepped in the same spots where in the past the twelve tribes of Israel stepped on the Jordan, there are twelve large stones until today you can see the twelve stones if you dive and that is where he walked In principle, Jesus was a Jew who preached for love and peace and for him, that what was important If you ask my opinion He led a following that today is huge group but he didn’t give them many tools like the Torah He told them to love they neighbour and preached love and peace which is excellent I don’t want to minimize it So what tools do you think they are missing? The Torah, the secrets how to work it Terrific, you love that guy you make peace with him but you need to know how to work within that Which tools? Where are they? They have a Bible In the interpretations more It’s because of that, that the Gmara (oral traditions) were written after Jesus 1600 years ago and in that, there are many tools other than that, there is a book called… I don’t remember its name by Yehuda Hanasi I think Kuzari (Yehuda Halevi) In the Kuzari, he compares all the religions It’s amazing and he tells all the stories about all of them How each is connected to each other Yes So in principle, Jesus was once a Jew So therefore every Gentile (goy) was once a Jew too Meaning, anyone who converts to Judaism is only returning to Judaism That’s what I think It is the same way. Like there is the way of the Native Americans, meditation In the end, all these things bring us in the same direction One God, as they say